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Jimmystats: A Reasonable Darboh Progression

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[Bryan Fuller]

All offseason I've been dickering around with targeting data trying to find something predictive about Michigan's receivers. Here's what I came up with:

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Big makes click (WRs with <10 targets excluded)

What you're seeing is RYPR data for guys listed as sophomores on 2005-'14 rosters. I couldn't be precise because that doesn't account for redshirts, but whenever I came across a double I went with the later year. RYPR is an imperfect feelingsball stat by Bill Connelly that tries to tie in a receiver's targeting data and the nature of his offense with his raw production. The big yellow diamond around 60 targets and 70 RYPR is Darboh last year (the other diamond in the mess of barely targeted dudes is Chesson).

What I like about the chart above is it's the first one that seems to put the guys who wound up really productive dramatically above average. Gallon and Manningham are floating well above the dotted line, Greg Mathews is way below it, and Darboh, Funchess (who spent part of that season as a TE), and Roundtree are kinda on it, despite a big spread in number of targets.

The Michigan sample's small, but the vast majority of guys above dotted line as sophomores wound up NFL picks. RYPR/targets in fact was more predictive than RYPR itself. NFL draft picks averaged 1.43 RYPR/Tgts versus 1.05 for those not drafted. The graph isn't dramatic (again click to make it big) but it's at least useful for setting a baseline:

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I noted some outliers among the undrafted: Jarrett Boykin (3.05 in 2009) spent three years on the Packers, starting for half of 2013. Billy Pittman had his big year with Vince Young but had a kind of palsy, got hit with one of the dumbest NCAA penalties ever (7 games for sharing his friend's car for the summer) and was an old man already by his combine. And Da'Rick Rogers left Tennessee after failing three drug tests, was the best receiver in FCS for a year, and has bounced around practice rosters since. As for those still playing, they're among the best in FBS: Tyler Boyd (Pitt), Pharoh Cooper (S Car), Will Fuller (ND), Michael Thomas (OSU) and Corey Coleman (Baylor) are all juniors this year. Sanity test: passed.

Remember these guys are all getting at least 10 targets as sophomores for a Power 5 or BCS school. Since that pack doesn't bother spreading out until 20 targets let's reset and from there and see what it says about about the future NFL draft picks versus the future pros in something else.

As SophomorePlayersAvg YdsAvg TgtsAvg RYPRRYPR/Tgts
Drafted14865673100.01.37
Undrafted4163764953.01.09
Darbohx4736769.81.04

Simply getting usage at Power 5/BCS team at this point gives you better than a 1 in 4 chance of getting drafted, about the same, we learned in previous studies, as a 4-star recruit. If Darboh was a guy who stood out in that stat I'd be excited, but he was pretty average. Still I'm interested to see what happened to the guys in Darboh's vicinity.

[After the Jump: guys who looked like Darboh]

Darboh-Like Objects:

I took out a subsection of sophomore receivers within +/-10 RYPR of Darboh. There were 45 initially but I removed 11 slot receiver types. We're left with 33 comps, four of whom disappeared for injury or personal reasons, and 12 of whom were NFL draft picks. Some of the guys you're probably familiar with are Brian Robiskie from Ohio State, and LSU's Early Doucet.

PlayerTeam       TGYdsRYPRDraftSummary
Donald BowensNCSU '076259874.10xTried to grad transfer to UCF in 2010, wasn't admitted.
Taiwan EasterlingFSU '094744473.88xLeft program after Jr year for baseball
Malcolm WilliamsTex '096855073.70Round 7 (NWE)Gave up football before 2011 season
Juron CrinerZona '097458173.41Round 5 (OAK)1st team All Pac-10 in 2010, went pro
Marcus MonkArk '057847673.24Round 7(CHI)Good as jr, injured as senior, drafted late
Brian RobiskieOSU '064138373.16Round 2(CLE)Doubled output, drafted high
Juaquin IglesiasOkla '066551472.46Round 3(CHI)Strong jr and sr seasons
Taylor EmbreeUCLA '097960871.72xPlateaued as a possession receiver
Dom WilliamsWSU '138064770.70n/aTreaded water last year. Still playing.
Kevonte Martin-ManleyIowa '128156970.20xRegressed somewhat as Jr matched production as Sr
Devin FullerUCLA '135547170.03n/aMatched production, still on team.
Rodney SmithFSU '105744869.99xTopped out a little better.
Amara DarbohMich6747369.79n/aWe're findng out
Terrance WilliamsBay '105848469.10Round 3(DAL)1st team all-B12 as Jr, Biletnikoff finalist as Sr
Andre DavisUSF '128553468.75xModerate progression
Paul RichardsonCU '117456967.90Round 2(SEA)Tore ACL and medshirted as Jr, exploded as RS Jr, went pro
La'Rod KingKy. '105347867.87xModerate progression, flattened, bounced around practice squads
Andrew MeansInd '077155967.87xLost in bad offense as Jr, switched to baseball
Danny OquendoMd. '064539767.62xSlot receiver mostly
Michael BennettGa. '123434567.07xPlateaued after
Selwyn LymonPur '065958066.94xHad his incident after that.
Damiam DavisOK St '082541466.73xDismissed from team after that
Chris GivensWake '106051466.72Round 4(STL)Exploded as Jr, went pro.
Bobby SwigertBC '117847666.65xLost career to injury after that
Mike DavisTex '118260966.61xImproved as Jr, nearly went pro, regressed as Sr, undrafted
Chris ConleyGa. '123234266.49Round 3(KAN)Solid possession career, drafted higher than production warranted
Carlton MitchellUSF '084840565.51Round 6 (CLE)Improved to 700-ish yards and left for NFL draft
Early DoucetLSU '053938965.47Round 3(ARI)Avant in a good WR corps, missed 5 games as Sr to injury, blew up in NFL combine, injuries shorted career
Jordan PaytonUCLA '135844065.43n/aProductive Jr year, still on team
Scott LongLou. '074435865.36xPlayed 3 games as Jr, productive as Sr
Tim SmithVa. '116256565.26xPlateaued after
Levi NorwoodBay '125348765.15xVery good all-purpose player, All B12 returner as Sr but lost reps to other guys. Not drafted.
Jamal TurnerNeb '125341765.02xInjured after 8 games as Jr and all of last year. Still on team.
Justin HunterTn. '112031464.92Round 2(TEN)His soph season was injury-shortened. Blew up into all-SEC after.

So?

So there were outliers and more than a few guys who wound up as 500-yard possession receivers. Justin Hunter probably would have had 1,000 yards if he didn't miss 2/3rds of his sophomore year. The bulk of guys saw moderate improvement but never cracked 1,000 yards some of those who did had RG3 throwing to them. But there are some strong success stories out of Darboh-like sophomore years. Juron Criner was All-Pac 10 as a junior. Chris Givens is on the list. Slice out the incompletes and here's what the junior versions of guys like Darboh looked like:

Player (as Jr)HtWtYrTeamTargetsYardsRYPR
Taiwan Easterling6'01952010Florida State6355186.1
Malcolm Williams6'32252010Texas4533433.3
Juron Criner6'32212010Arizona1211258164.9
Marcus Monk6'42122006Arkansas90962144.7
Brian Robiskie6'42122007Ohio State84935147.8
Juaquin Iglesias6'12052007Oklahoma91862113.9
Taylor Embree6'22022010UCLA6240943.6
Dom Williams6'22002014WSU6565676.0
Kevonte Martin-Manley6'02052013Iowa6738850.1
Devin Fuller6'12002014UCLA8244762.2
Rodney Smith6'52202011Florida State5856190.8
Terrance Williams6'22082011Baylor83957153.2
La'Rod King6'42222011Kentucky7959869.3
Andrew Means6'02152008Indiana5644664.2
Danny Oquendo6'01902007Maryland2317825.0
Michael Bennett6'32022013Georgia5853888.5
Selwyn Lymon6'42152007Purdue6645048.9
Chris Givens6'01952011Wake Forest1351330170.9
Bobby Swigert6'11992012B.C.3724933.9
Mike Davis6'21952012Texas86939130.4
Chris Conley6'32052013Georgia72651107.1
Carlton Mitchell6'32152009USF59706110.5
Early Doucet6'02102006LSU73772156.4
Jordan Payton6'12122014UCLA99954132.8
Scott Long6'22142008Louisville1620125.7
Tim Smith6'01952012Virginia3940545.7
Levi Norwood6'22002013Baylor60733121.2
Jamal Turner6'11902013Nebraska1910212.3
Justin Hunter6'42032012Tennessee1321083180.2

That's an average of 70 targets, 643 yards and a RYPR of 92.8. Reasonable upside would be Brian Robiskie. A 2010 Junior Hemingway is the baseline; we'll take it.


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